 |
View
previous topic :: View
next topic |
Author |
Message |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
|
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:02 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By rickstef
Ron,
I surely hope that hole you dug, is deep and big
enough for ya too
Rick
----- "Rock is
Dead, Long Live Paper and Scissors" | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:03 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Neoneanderthal
he
claims it was dug for him.......g | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:04 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Larrymax
Ron,
Hehehe......Gotcha!
Now, if we
only knew where First Mate, Darwin, has gotten off to!
I actually have the ENTIRE DAY TO MYSELF, tomorrow!!!!
I've given the crew orders that the Capt'ns NOT to be
disturbed unless the ship is going down! Think of it! A WHOLE
DAY to work on Cleo! I can hardly wait!!......
Larry
Captain and Chief Recruiting Officer Paper Navy of the
Bear Coast Republic
....Everybody........."Yo-ho,
yo-ho, it's a Pirates life for me...."!!! ; ) | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:08 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Larrymax
Captain's
Log December 25, 2003
This evening I managed to
mount two cannons at the aft end of the main deck. At this
point, I think I'm just going to rig my cannons as shown here.
Trying to rig the blocks and tackle that haul the
cannon in and out is just TOO TINY! I'm pretty sure I can be
happy just rigging them like this. Cutting out the eyebolts
for the sides of the cannons and the attachment to the
bulwarks is not too difficult. I soak a little bit of
cardstock with Super Glue. Let it dry well (about 10 minutes),
then poke a little hole through it. I sand down the back side
of the punched hole to flatten down the paper that has been
punched through. Then it's just a matter of trimming around
the hole, leaving enough material to create the eyebolt. Color
it black, slip it through the line and, viola! I seized the
ends that attach to the bulwark, just behind the eyebolt.
Well, that's it for this evening. It's getting late,
It's been a busy day, and I'm getting sleepy. I hope you all
had a wonderful Christmas!...I'll be getting up bright and
early in the morning to start a full day's work on Cleo. We're
going to have a good day! I'll post pics of my progress for
you all to pick at! Good Night.
Larry Captain and
Master of My Domain Paper Navy of the Bear Coast
Republic | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:10 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Larrymax
Captain's
Log December 26, 2003
Ahoy! Well, I've had a GRAND
day today....hardly an interuption..lots of building
time...and I'm not done, yet. Just wanted to give everyone an
update from the daylight hours progress. I completed and
installed the 4 cannon at the aft end of the main deck.
Then, because I'm a perfectionist and hardly EVER
happy with the way things are going, I decided to re-plank the
interior gunwales. The cut of the "planks" now lines up with
the gunports quite nicely, as opposed to looking all chopped
up and jigsaw puzzled together. (I took your advice Peter, and
am working to my own expectations and enjoying myself!)
Despite my strong desire to move forward and get the aft deck
installed...those gunwales were just bugging me...so I had to
do something about it. Now, with the guns installed, I was
(finally!) able to attach the aft deck! HUZZA!!! It went on
very nicely. I "pre-cambered" it so there would not be any
pre-loaded stress trying to pull the edges up, and it would
just lie nicely across all the formers. I sat for 5 minutes
and applied firm, but gentle, pressure across all the glued
join areas and now I'm just letting it set well while I update
you all on Cleo's progress.
When I
go back to her in a few minutes, I'll begin attaching skins
(again) now that the aft deck is finally in place! With luck.
I'll have the rest of them insalled this evening.
Wish
me luck! Larry Captain and Ready for some Grog!
HMS Cleopatra Paper Navy of the Bear Coast
Republic | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:14 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Larrymax
Hello
all,
It's 11:00pm and I think I'll call it a day! I
managed to finish the aft skins and attach the keel this
evening! It's has been SOooooo great to have a whole day to
devote to just building my model! I owe my wife a BIG thank
you for just letting me be and not giving me a bunch of "Honey
Do's". Every now and then, she's OK! (hehehe!) Well, the basic
shape of my Cleopatra is now complete. Her lines and mass are
now evident. Her decks and keel are laid and a few of her guns
are in place. All in all, I'd say I'm right on track to finish
some time in November 2004!!! Just kidding...the work is going
along nicely...and best of all, I'm REALLY enjoying the
building! Next up, the "Final Planking"....or..."Cleo Gets a
Paint Job!" Here are some progress pics..
Just an
after-thought...If there are any details, or close-up shots
any of you would like to see, just ask...I'll be happy to
oblige.
A view of the stern galley area and the aft skins
(By the way, Cleo is actually standing, unaided, on her
keel, 1/8" wide! How's THAT for balance!)
A view of HMS
Cleopatra in the shipyard ; )
Good
Night All, Larry Captain and Desparately Seeking
Pillow Time HMS Cleopatra Paper Navy of the Bear Flag
Republic | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:19 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Larrymax
Good
Morning. Woke up bright and early this morning to get just a
bit more work done on Cleo before I have to run off for the
day. I got the upper planking pieces (forward, mid-ship, and
aft) on the starboard side, and the forward port side piece
installed. The gunport cutout were a pretty close fit. I did
need to tweek a couple to get them to line up properly with
the ports (i.e. cut a little bit off the forward edge and
shift it to the aft edge of the opening), but overall, I'm
amazed at the fit of all the pieces!
I found
that as the parts curved down the hull and were laid over the
bulkheads, there were gaps under the planking where the first
layer of skins went "flat" as they spanned the distance to the
next bulkhead. In wood ship models, this is overcome by the
natural, consistant bending of the planks between bulkheads.
Paper seems to be just too thin to manage this. I tried to
avoid it by not pulling too hard while laying the parts down,
but, now that I'm putting the next layer on, I've found the
problem was not completely alleviated. I'm fixing it by
cutting some "fillers" to build up the gapped areas and give
the final planking pieces more surface to be attached to. It
won't be perfect, but it will be better. Again, in wood ship
models, you can sand out some of these minor
problems...alas...too much sanding here and all you get is
holes in your hull!
Well,
that's it for this morning. I'm off to work on a mural (I'm an
artist/graphic designer in my OTHER life!) I'll try to get
some more done this evening.
Until then....Keep on
building! Larry Captain, HMS Cleopatra Paper Navy
of the Bear Flag Republic
P.S. Darwinnnnnnn.....come
out, come out, wherever you are! hehehe! P.P.S. How's the
Victory comin', Gil? Love to see some pics! | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:19 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Gil
Larry,
The flattening between bulkheads is a problem. One
idea that might work is to back the piece with a lighter
weight card stock. Use a slow setting glue so that the piece
can be shaped between thumb and forefinger until the entire
"plank" fits the bulkhead countours. Let the glue set and then
attach to the hull. The backing forms a second ply and allows
twist and curvature to be "set in" permanently before bonding
to the hull. Make sure to seal the both parts with acrylic
sealer before beginning.
Best regards, Gil
[Edited by Gil on 2003-12-27 11:59 PM]
-----
I Got Carded! | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:23 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Larrymax
Captains Log December 28, 2003 10:45am
Good Morning Mates,
Last night and this
morning I've been busying myself with lots of "Fiddly-Bits"!
all the dark brown trim that goes around the top of the
hull....lots of thin, long pieces....cut it out, dry fit to
insure proper placement and length, color the edges, glue,
place, adjust, burnish, clean up excess glue, go on to nex
piece. Went fairly quickly...put on a couple of my favorite
CD's and get into the "zone" and just trudge along. : )
Also made a new cradle to hold the hull. Got
some high-density foam (from the packing material of a
Christmas present!) trimmed it out with a kitchen knife to
approximate the hull form. Works great. I can place the hull
in it at any angle and it holds it securely. Thank you Santa :
)
Well,
I'm back to it, now. Starting the Hull Planking. Well, what
are you doing sitting there reading about MY fun.....GO BUILD
SOMETHING!
Larry Captain, HMS Cleopatra Paper
Navy of the Bear Flag Republic
Good evening ladies
and gent's. Well, the planking continues. I'm below the
waterline now and all the planking is white. This is creating
a minor frustration in that the part "cut lines" are printed
in black. I'm doing my best to cut JUST INSIDE the cut line so
I'm not left with black lines on my nice white hull. What
little bits I miss, I use a fine emery board (finger nail
file) to buff off the offending black bits. Seems to be
working OK. Still using filler bits to fill in the hollow
areas between bulkheads, but that is less of a problem the
further down the hull I go. Another thing I've discovered is
that the nice "Yellow" band around the hull....well, on the
cover of the model, that band is a nice "Brick Red" (very
similar to the color of the inboard sides of the gunwales.
Hmmmmm....interesting problem....do I paint it to match the
cover? ...or do I leave it sunny yellow? Guess I'll have to
work that one out sometime soon. For that matter, the "Black"
band just below the yellow is sort of a medium/dark gray!
Hmmmmmm......what will I do? What will I do? .....stay tuned
for the exciting answer to these (and I'm sure, many other)
exciting issues as they arrise.
Happy Building, and
good night. Larry Captain, HMS Cleopatra Paper
Navy of the Bear Flag Republic
P.S. Gettin' kind of
lonely out here....be nice to hear from a few of you!
Questions? Comments! I know you're out there....! Have you
SEEN how many people are reading this thread!!!!! Where are
ya, Gil!!!??? Where are ya, Glen!!!??? Where are ya,
Ron!!!??? | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:23 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Gil
Larry,
I'm here..., Nice work! Beginning to look like a ship
of the line.
The yellow is chromium yellow, and the
black is black enamel. Shipyards color fidelity is a bit
wanting. I suggest that you try Liquitex acrylic paints.
Highly available and are very adaptable to most all media.
It's now what I use nearly exclusively.
Best regards,
Gil
----- I Got Carded! | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:24 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By maurice
Larry
The silence means we're dumbstruck. (no grin there
because I mean it) And even though you didn't ask for it,
here's some information. By 1783 the Royal Navy had
ordered all it's ships to be sheathed in copper to a
horizontal line 16" above the waterline and the use of "White
stuff" and "Black stuff" (earlier antifouling compositions)
was discontinued. The Rose replica has an earlier white bottom
but with an incorrect curved waterline but above that her
colours are correct. (please don't shoot me - and do your
own thing anyway )
Oh and don't listen to Gil. By the late 18th
century only First, Second and Third Rate ships took a place
in the Line of Battle. Any lesser Rates present were allowed
to keep out of harms way. There were precise rules of
engagement based on those ratings. (Basically you could run
away from anything with a higher rating without dishonour.
)
Maurice | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:27 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By Wunwinglow
Larry,
can I just say thanks again for your updates on progress, we
are all watching agog!! And to have the luxury of several days
uninterupted must be fantastic! What little time I have had
this holiday has been put to collecting data and pics to go
with the Type 23 frigate drawings I got a few weeks ago so I
am laying the foundations for a project. But, and keep this to
yourself, I will probably go back to using plastic card,
polystyrene strip and rod, resin castings etc. For goodness
sakes don't let anyone else on the forum get to hear about
this, or else I'll be walking the plank! Not only that, but I
saw a 1:200 Trumpeter Sovremenny Class Destroyer kit in my
local hobby shop, and I am getting that 'hankering' for
plastics again. And me, with so many other half-baked projects
already.....
Brilliant thread, do keep it going!
Tim
----- Lots of Projects, but don't hold
your breath.... | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
|
Back
to top |
|
 |
Ron Site
Admin

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 191
|
Posted: Sat Jan
24, 2004 9:28 pm Post
subject: |
|
|
By neoneanderthal
chukimahht......g | |
Back
to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this
forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You
cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot
delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls
in this forum You cannot add events in this forum You
cannot attach files in this forum You cannot
download files in this forum
|
Powered
by phpBB
2.0.6 © 2001, 2002 phpBB
Group
|