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By mkchen
the little
block that they use to raise and lower the angle of the cannon
barrel (I don't know the real name of it, though I'm sure
someone out there will let me know!),...
Ooh, Ooh, I
know! It's a "quoin." "A wooden wedge with a handle at the
thick end used to adjust the elevation of a gun." from "A Sea
of Words- A Lexicon and Companion to the Complete Seafaring
Tales of Patrick O'Brian," 3rd ed., by Dean King. | |
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By Gil
Hello All,
"Ship Modeling from Stem to Stern" by Milton Roth,
1988, McGraw Hill TAB Books.
Another book that will
save lots of time.
Best regards, Gil ----- I
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By Maurice
Larry
That's a beautful piece of work. The reason you're
not happy with the barrel is that R1 simply isn't the right
shape. If you wouldn't be offended I can let you have a
shape that gives the right length and taper to the basic
barrel.
Maurice
This is without prejudice
to the fact that I categorically deny having a copy of this
kit, which if I did have I'd never get around to building in
this lifetime, and I most certainly don't have a CAD drawing
of the cannon being developed for another and less ambitious
project, which if it existed would never get around to being
finished anyway.
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By Sticky Fingers
The
guns look a place to definetly try the paper casting Gil
developed. I can't wait to see what these are going to look
like when they're done. ----- Mark, just Plain
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By Larrymax
Maruice
Thank you very much. I would certainly appreciate it
if you sent me a non-existant CAD drawing of the correct shape
and size for my cannon barrels. It's too bad you don't have a
copy of this kit....it would sure be nice to have someone else
along for this ride!
My email address is catagorically
not: larrymax1009@yahoo.com
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By Peter H
This is a
marvelous thread.
I'm thinking of getting a horse to
take me between the shipyards and the Royal arsenal to follow
progress.
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By Gil
Hello All,
The following table comes from Milton Roth's book,
"Ship Modeling from Stem to Stern". Notice that the length of
most of the main guns doesn't vary that much in length. They
do vary in diameter as the larger bores required larger
gunpowder charges resulting in increased detonation pressure
within thee breech. I'll research that next and hopefully come
up with a ratio that covers this. Also position of trunions
and rings is (at least on British Men-of-War) ratio-metric
after 1750.
Later....,
Best regards, Gil
P.S. Finally turned the Excel table into a JPEG file
(a la Rick) and used the (less than symbol here)img src=
"www.yourserver/yourpicture.jpg"> html(greater than symbol
here) statement (a la Leif Oh)to get it to show.
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2003-12-02 8:48 PM] ----- I Got
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By Larrymax
This
evening I got to put on my first deck! I'm so easily excited!
After trimming out the piece, I dry fit it in place. About 3
or 4 of the slots didn't match up quite perfectly with the
rails they needed to slot on to, and required a bit of
trimming to allow a smooth, jam free, fit. After trimming out
all the hatch holes and the main mast hole, I slip traced the
part onto its stiffining chipboard. When cutting out the
chipboard I cut the holes slightly larger, and the outside
edge slightly smaller to insure the chipboard would not show
through the cutouts or hang over the sides.
I don't want
to risk any "bubbling" or separation down the road so I used
Super 77 spary glue to hold the two parts together and
burnished the deck down really well. Then it was time for the
glue down! I spread glue on the top of all the appropriate
bulkheads, carefully inserted one edge of the deck into place,
flexed the deck to slip under the railings on the other side
and popped the deck into place. A quick note: I added a bit of
chipboard ledge, following the curature of the deck, where the
aft edge of the deck butts agains the bulkhead, to give the
deck something to be glued to. Finally, a bit of pressure and
smoothing to insure good contact, and VIOALA! I'm sooo happy :
) I have a deck! I'm already putting my little cannon on the
deck and looking down the deck and out the railings and
feeling very nautical! This is FUN!
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By Gil
Hello All,
Larry, nice work! One thing I noticed from your photos
is that the Cleo's decking has distinct plank end marking. The
Victory as printed doesn't inclued this. I guess these will
have to be added after scanning. Did you complete all the
below deck detail before decking it over?
I'm still
cutting out the remainder eggcrate..., a process interrupted
by running out of illustrator board. Luckily I found three
sheets that someone had walked on and was able to get 30% off.
Anyone know how to get an excel spreadsheet table to a
post?
Best regards, Gil
P.S. I've also been
doing some side work on a German Type XXI boat which has been
sitting around for over a year due to some disappointment
about how it was going together. Solved the problem with two
paper towel tubes, end plug circles and lunes for the dual
co-joined hull cylinders. Worked out incredibly well. Also
found out that by wrapping the shaft of the Olfa circle cutter
with a slit aluminum tube allowed it to be put in the chuck of
a small table drill press. Running the drill press at low
speed makes cutting out circular illustrator board so much fun
you'll run out of scrap quickly. Also buffing the blade with
the Xacto buffing wheel with polishing compound makes the
cutting easier and more accurate. Make sure to use a soft wood
backing piece for the center needle to steady in. -----
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Gil,
either make a snapshot of it in windows, or try to
export the table as a graphic, then just attach as normal, I
guess I can fiddle with Excel and see what happens
Rick
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By Larrymax
Gil, Of
course I put in all the below deck details! Don't be silly! I
built a nice stove, some mess areas, hung a few hammocks and
built the powder room (lined with lead)..... : ) Actually, I
did no such thing.....there is not detail under the main deck.
I'll put my "faux" gun ports under the fore and aft decks
next, before covering them over. As for the deck plank ends
being visible, on my Cleo, they've actually drawn the plank
edges as well as the wood plugs covering the deck nails. On an
real ship you can't really see these details unless you look
really close, so I'm not so sure how accurate it is to have
them drawn on the deck like this,.... but It looks OK, just
not really accurate.
Heres' a pic of a model cannon
station I made last Christmas....it's wood and the gun barrel
is made from Sculpy modeling clay, but wood is just
paper-on-the-hoof, right! Just thought you'ld enjoy it.
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By Larrymax
Hi Peter.
Yes, there is stuff happening. Kind of mundane, repetitive
stuff, though. I had a VERY BUSY weekend (wife's birthday, you
know!) and wasn't able to squeeze in much modeling time. I did
manage to finish the rest of the Gun Port "shadow boxes" and
installed them. With any luck at all I'm going to get the aft
deck installed this evening. Here's a couple of rather boring
little pics of all the gun port boxes in place. Now.....back
to building! : )
....P.S. Where are ya, Darwin!!!??? ....P.P.S.
Double-Dog-Dare you to join in Ron!!! ; ) You could start with
something easy, like, for instance, "The HMS Bounty"!!!
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I take that
dare!! I'll wait and see if the boss is generous this thursday
and pick a nice one (Shop Christmas party)
Seriously, any suggestions for a nice ship with medium
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By Gil
Larry,
Bought builder board that's 1.5 mm thick..., finally
obtained 1 mm thick illustrator board and am still cutting out
the longitudinal deck plates..., dry fit the bulkheads to the
center keel plate and realized this is going to be a very
large model.
Found that the judicial use of Minwax
Wood Hardener on sharp or pointed areas and areas which
receive high stress works wonders. Paint it on liberally on
both sides and let dry thouroughly (~4-5 hours). Pictures
maybe by next week.
Best regards, Gil
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2003-12-09 1:02 AM]
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By cardfan
I just
wanted to say that everyone is doing fantastic work! You have
convinced me to start on a ship myself... the USS Oregon. I'm
crazy but I don't need therapy... 6 hours per cannon, gives me
the shivers. I'm off to sharpen a blade or two and get
started.
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